Thread starter dbrown; Start date Jan 8, 2017; Tags mcintosh sansui Prev. Nov 22, 2022 · I came to Sansui from McIntosh. You can't go wrong with Aug 26, 2015 · From 1979 to around 1980 Sansui offered their G-X700 line which ranged from the low end G-4700 up to the top end G-9700. Nov 4, 1974 · The McIntosh you have purchased is A Model MAC 4100. Kept the Sansui 2000X and the 4- 4ohm CV MX who are rated at 105db as my main system. Manufactured 1978 - 1985; 75 Watts x 2 channels; AM Jul 29, 2010 · MAC-4100. I have also spoken with Terry and in his opinion the 4100 is a work horse that sounds great to boot. Except during Sansui week. But, that is why it costs a bit more. Jan 23, 2022 · mcintosh vs canor As for my current high-end reference amplifier, the Canor A1. The vintage Sansui sound is awesome, but I would look for a AU-717 or 919 integrated. This is pretty much one of the end termination points where everything winds up at. Nov 22, 2022 · A McIntosh MA-6100 integrated amp is for sale locally. No other amp Sansui ever made received such a reissue, so they were quite proud of the 111, I think. Oct 9, 2019 · SANYO JCX 2900, Onkyo 8500, Kenwood KR-9600, Sansui Eight Deluxe, Sansui G9000 Series, Sherwood 9910, Pioneer SX-1250, Marantz 2325,2330,2285, Luxman 1070,1120. Feb 9, 2008 · MAC 4100 vs MAC 4200. It puts out 120 watts per channel compared to the G-4700 with 50 WPC and the G-9700 at 200 WPC. While the 9090DB powered out a hefty 125 Feb 13, 2015 · This is the very highly thought of Sansui 2000X. Apr 18, 2012 · Excellent resale value makes McIntosh among the least expensive to own in the long run. Dec 13, 2011 · I had the Sansui hooked up in a space-challenged system along with a pair of large Advents, a Thorens TD-160 Super TT, and a Sony XA20ES CD player/MSB Link DAC and the sound was really nice. Jun 4, 2010 · not that my limited experience counts for much here, but i have to give the nod to my old Sanyo JCX-2900K. Well this is a little different from my usual projects. Apr 18, 2012 · Mcintosh MA 7900 Vs Sansui G 33. Liquid77, Dec 4, 2019. I do miss my old Mac 4100 though. However after reading a bit it seems the 1900 and the 4100 have a large following. 00: Sansui QR-1500 Quad Receiver MAC 4100 Brochure. I know the 4100 and the systems delivered 4 or 5 times a month based on it, kept our small town dealership consistently in the top echelon of McIntosh May 31, 2010 · I have a 4100 and a 6100 (6100 since new in 1973). It is all solid state and produces just 20 watts per channel. Neither has a case and the cosmetics on both is good. Mar 29, 2021 · Hello gang, I am considering one of 3 different McIntosh receiversMac 1500, 1700, or 1900. Dec 2, 2014 · Exclusively Sansui . 5V Yamaha MX-2: THD = . Feb 19, 2007 · I've tried to justify the Mac cost have owned 2 Mac 4100's and have friends with some tube gear. It retailed for around $280 and while it was at the lower end of the Sansui lineup it was by no means a cut-rate receiver. AM/FM Stereo Receiver (1978-82) add a review. And like the SX-750's vinyl top, the 4100's top is cheap and nasty. The only concern was if it would have any issues driving my AR 3's. I'm currently running a Sansui AU-9900 integrated in my main system, with a mint AU-717 w/orig. Sep 26, 2010 · The Sansui has controls that need cleaning or you get intermittent channels, but if you clean them properly with good quality contact cleaner, they stay clean for a long time. Mar 6, 2012 · Hi MotorStereo, I have a Modaferri modded MR78 but no Sansui TU-9900. Mar 22, 2013 · This is not 1 VS another unitWell sort ofJust my overall Listening Pleasure. Mar 21, 2023 · As I am getting more acclimated to my restored, MA4100, I am getting a better understanding of the sound signature of that era of McIntosh gear. Nov 4, 2019 · Getting insterested in a little Sansui receiver. Man, was I frustrated - an expensive restoration and I was having a channel cut out. And For Phono's Technics Sl1210. Perhaps the Sansui G-7500 does not mate as well with vintage Klipsch vs the Sony. Sep 15, 2018 · I've done a full recap on a Pioneer SX-535, 737, and 650, a Nak 3020a, and a Sansui 661. Replies Nov 4, 2015 · After I hooked up the Sansui to my Cornwalls, the right channel would occassionally cut out. However, The higher end Sansui stuff is also going for high amounts lately as well. That honor Jan 8, 2017 · You can get a 4100 (8-1k not Restored) or 1900 with speakers that will do nicely. It was produced from 1978 up until 1985 and had a retail price of nearly $2000. The MAC is a very nice sounding unit! Feb 10, 2011 · The Sansui 2000x isn't my fav for looks but nothing I have heard sounds as good. Great with Klipsch. That probably wasn't all that far off in 1978. 4 x 5. In order to finance the MA-6100 I would have to part with one of my Sansui integrateds. Founded in 1949, McIntosh is known for offering distinguished home audio systems that deliver the ultimate experience in music and film. smokinone; May 11, 2019; General Audio Sep 4, 2007 · Sansui was good gear. Lots of talk about how McIntosh is the "best". 00. I have spoken previously of my Binghamton experience with blustering oil patch and big city dealers. Record the purchase date here: Purchase Date Upon application, McIntosh Laboratory provides a Apr 16, 2013 · Roon>Merason DAC 1>Airmid Yeti OTL, Violectric V550 Pro, Sansui 881, McIntosh 4100, Cayin IHA 6, Nitsch Piety Headphones: ZMF Caldera, ZMF Atrium Open, ZMF Atrium Closed, ZMF Verite Open, ZMF Verite Closed, ZMF Auteur, ZMF Auteur Classic AKG K701, AKG K340, AKG K240 Sextett EP,MP,LP, AKG K240 DF, Sennheiser HD250 Linear 1 My YouTube Channel Mar 21, 2012 · I have several Pioneer and Sansui tuners in my collection that are rated highly by the experts as well as several excellent receivers. Negotiableterms. 95 and was the top-of-the-line receiver in the Sansui lineup at the time. I can see what all the fuss is about with Mcintosh now. Nov 18, 2013 · MAC 4100 every time. The only downside (to me) is the tacky "case" McIntosh slapped on it. I found this unit at a very upscale estate sale and it was in near mint condition with the exception of some peeling vinyl veneer. Others in the line included the 771, 661, 551, 441, 331, and 221. C; Start date Mcintosh MA 7900 Vs Sansui G 33. Record that serial number here: Serial Number The model, serial number and purchase date are important to you for any future service. I had to put in a little effort and $150. soon will compare it to a mac 1900. 800 4000 5000 Eight Eight Deluxe ( This gives my Mcintosh 4100 receiver a good run for its money ) Dec 30, 2020 · Stereophile published a review of the McIntosh MAC 7200 integrated amp / AM-FM receiver. ELECTRICAL: 100w/ch into 4 ohms and 75w/ch into 8 ohms Mar 23, 2015 · Looking for some opinions between these 3 receivers. When I had purchased my 1st 4100 8yrs ago I wanted to have a "Bake Off" on 4100 VS Luxman L-100U. Thread starter smokinone; Start date May 11, 2019; smokinone luxman R404 vs sansui 771. How much for this I asked? $50 she said. It was produced from around 1971 up until about 1975 and puts out about 35 watts per channel. 26V Based on the specs there are 2 drawbacks to the McIntosh: 1- The input impedance is probably incompatible with the CX-2 pre. My concern about an MA-6900 is that I might still lust after an MC352 and pre-amp. (I have a Mint 9100) They don't look as cool but again its a Looks vs Sound thing. Apr 27, 2015 · This is further borne out by the fact Sansui did two limited edition reissues of the 111 in 1999 (standard and a gold edition), as sort of a final statement on their 5+ decade legacy of outstanding sound. I prefer my 6100 on looks alone, but nostalgia plays a part for me I admit. Sansui 9090 (most expensive): Marantz harby , Oct 23, 2019 Nov 30, 2023 · Marantz and McIntosh are two renowned and well-respected brands in the audio industry and produce high-quality speakers, soundbars, headphones, and subwoofers. Dec 3, 2021 · Just got a Mcintosh 4100 handed down to me. I'm even picking up another yammy piece today. I'm wondering how different the sound/sound quality might be from my Sansui gear, which can be seen in my signature at the bottom. Luxman R1050 vs. the vintage marantz is really nice. The design seems to have a love-hate quality with audiophiles and collectors. Sep 17, 2007 · I have the opportunity to pick up a good-condition McIntosh MA-6100 integrated amp. The additional output capability will never be missed with the Heresy IV; with the Linton, there would be ~ 1. Sadly Sansui is now history, and IMO, made just about the finest recievers of the 70's heyday of audio. Thread starter TheShlomboy; Start date Nov 29, 2020; T. The receiver is in excellent condition as well, and looks and sounds great. 008% Damping Factor = 250 @8 ohms Input Imp = 20K Sensitivity = 1. 25% Damping Factor = 13 @8 ohms Input Imp = 200 Sensitivity = 0. I picked it up at a garage sale along with some McIntosh XR-5 speakers for $100. It is full featured, produces 26 watts per channel, and is known for its Apr 26, 2018 · Luxman LV109/Sansui TU-717 and McIntosh 4100 Sound Compare. Dec 14, 2016 · Sansui vs McIntosh. IMHOthe model 19 sounds just as good then the 4100 but different. Done I said. etc. Most people would find well-maintained vintage Pioneer equipment very easy on the ears. The MAC 1900 and MAC 4100 are my favorite models of McIntosh. My AU-505 was a fine SS amp. Thread starter Ronald. Dec 4, 2019 · The Mac is a MA-6100 and the Sansui is a AU-9900 and both are in excellent condition. Mar 6, 2019 · The 9090 isn't in the same game as the McIntosh. I had a MAC 4100 receiver, which I liked well enough, but it was the superior channel separation of a Harman Kardon HK 730 receiver in the back room, actually, that planted the thought that maybe I should investigate dual mono. Yes, I have noticed the extremely high prices the vintage Mac stuff is selling for. It's an apples to oranges comparison, as McIntosh really never pursued getting into the Reciever Market, with only a few offerings. A refurbished 4100 at a good price is hard to pass up. For information and prices on the current line of products, contact McIntosh Laboratory, Inc. On the other hand, if you take the particle board w/wood-grain vinyl panels off, you have a beautiful dark-gray mil-spec l Jun 6, 2004 · Not terribly surprising the Mac would win vs the Sansui TU-5900. McIntosh described the 4100 as "the most value packed receiver in the world". We all know that Mac makes great tube gear. (20,000 vs 200 ohms) Dec 15, 2013 · Hi guys, I'm not what you would call an audiophile but I do have a deep appreciation for good sound and quality gear. Jun 10, 2008 · For the gear Mcintosh : Mc 2505 , MX 112 fully serviced at Mcintosh a couple of years ago, MCD 7007. Every one sounded excellent. the only other receiver i've had was a Marantz 2245 which was nice and probably smoother but not as powerful- and accurate-sounding. Yes, you need to enjoy the best of old McIntosh and old Feb 16, 2014 · The 4100 is no different. I have been offered a McIntosh MA-230 and a Sansui G9000DB around the $800 Feb 26, 2017 · I have lots of experience with Pioneer, Sansui, Sony, Marantz etc but very little with McIntosh so I'm curious as to how their entry level receivers of that era compare to say Sansui Eight, Sony 7065 6060, Pioneer etc. Go. It weighs in at just under 23 pounds and measures 16. It has both a traditional analog dial as well as a digital tuner display. He absolutely loves my Mcintosh tube system but he can't afford it at this time so he asked me "what can I buy for no more then $700 that would have minimum 75 Feb 19, 2007 · Hi, McIntosh is best in this shootout by far. It is absolutely wrong to compare , apples to oranges. Aug 23, 2011 · This is the McIntosh 4100 receiver. That's my meager background. The MAC 4100 in my opinion was the best McIntosh receiver ever made. Sansui: Au 11000 just serviced, Au7900 serviced By Bristol 1 year ago, Au 7900 never servicedCheapo sony cd. box and paperwork as well as an AU-9500 in my collection. A fully restored Sansui 9090 is something to behold both visually and aurally. Jun 16, 2020 · 1978 McIntosh MAC 4100 Receiver 75w per channel. Ronald. The 4100 is flawless. 7 x 11. counterparts. MAC 4100. C; Dec 2, 2014; McIntosh Audio; 3 4 5. The closest rivals would be Marantz's Model 18 (Tuner not up to my needs on sensitivity, otherwise superb), Sony's STR 6120 (many a McIntosh owner had that as a second receiver, I'd be happy with a nice one Feb 8, 2007 · McIntosh: MC225, C11, MR67, MR7082, MA6200, MAC 1700, MAC 1900 The McIntosh equipment costs far more than the Pioneer. I have owned many Mcintosh pieces, MC2505, MC2250, MC 2205, etc. I had another hard decision last year when I sold my McIntosh 4100. Jul 28, 2010 · I love Sansui a lot, and also own both a Sansui and McIntosh, the Sansuis I like are 2000x, 3000a, 4000, and 5000 (4000 owner myself). The History of McIntosh . IIRC, many of the Ohm speakers required a great deal of power. Often. 99: Sansui 2000 Receiver Nice: Sold Nov 9, 2022: $109. The Apr 18, 2012 · This is all upon speculation, and opinion. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Regardless, the 1700, and 1900 are both fine Units. it looks like they had about 3-5 (1700,1900,6100,6200 etc) during that time. 40W can be more than sufficient if you have reasonably efficient speakers Aug 21, 2013 · Roon>Merason DAC 1>Airmid Yeti OTL, Violectric V550 Pro, Sansui 881, McIntosh 4100, Cayin IHA 6, Nitsch Piety Headphones: ZMF Caldera, ZMF Atrium Open, ZMF Atrium Closed, ZMF Verite Open, ZMF Verite Closed, ZMF Auteur, ZMF Auteur Classic AKG K701, AKG K340, AKG K240 Sextett EP,MP,LP, AKG K240 DF, Sennheiser HD250 Linear 1 My YouTube Channel Dec 21, 2016 · Just looking for opinions. Apr 10, 2020 · The Sansui G-5700 is one of those 'in between' receivers that was made during the transition from analog to digital readouts. By 1978 it was reaching the end of its product life and some retailers were selling it as part of a package deal. The MAC's just have a cleaner and more detailed sound to my ear as compared to the Sansui. Reactions: Sansui 9090 DB is not even Sansui's best sounding receiver. The 1900 seems to be prone to dirty controls, need to be cleaned from time to time. Exclusively Sansui; 3 4 5. Sansui built very good equipment that could go neck and neck with Mcintosh. So, the Pioneer vs Sansui will be your personal reference. To add another wrinkle in the evaluation an synergy can exist in-between the receiver & your speaker system. The MR78 is a very good sounding, but not a great sounding tuner. It's my first Mac that I've ever listened to. Mcintosh MA 7900 Vs Sansui G 33. I surprised how much musicality and punch it has compared to the Yamaha amp. This would be my first introduction to anything Mcintosh. Nov 1, 2014 · It is the only McIntosh receiver that has output that is similar to the amplifier you have now. Input selector of the MAC4100 is FET while the MX117 is mechanical. Does it sound better in the same proportions as one might infer from its higher price? Hard to say. The 4100 sounds great, but the vinyl-clad cabinet it comes in is offensive. K New Member. Should I stick with the Sansui or buy the Mac Tuner? Pros and Cons? Nov 29, 2010 · McIntosh for me. My preferred Marantz receivers are the 18 and 19 (the only US made ones designed by Saul Marantz and Sid Smith but after the Superscope sale). Such as my little Dahlquist m903's. After flip floping the speakers, hooking them up to the B and C speaker outputs, and various other attempts, it turned out that it was the Dolby selection switch Oct 22, 2019 · If you're thinking of a 70's Japanese-made receiver, you can probably find a Sansui for a fraction the price that rolled off the same assembly line. Although, I agree the AU-999 in stock form sounds only okay (my least favourite of any sansui I have heard so far, in stock form at least). The Pioneer is a little too "bright" for my liking. Both units have been Recapped (Threads below) and have 120hrs for each unit. Home / McIntosh Legacy Products / McIntosh Legacy Receivers / MAC4100 MAC4100 2-Channel Receiver LEGACY PRODUCT. 9090db and many other SANSUI'S have nothing to envy compared to Mcintosh's. I've never heard a McIntosh and only seen one pre-amp in person. much of the vintage gear is nice- hi fidelity Jul 5, 2005 · Thanks guys, perhaps I will part with a SX-1050. Of course these units are unrestored; they will need new caps, the 4100 will also need tuner alignment, so servicing it will cost more. 1% McIntosh MAC4100. Mcintosh I'm wondering if Yamaha had any experience in that particular field. I live near a retired Sansui tech and he HATES working on 9090's. It seems to be in overall excellent condition. I just picked up a Sansui TU9900 in a trade. Description. The phono amplifier in the MAC4100 uses a new high technology integrated circuit Nov 29, 2020 · luxman R404 vs sansui 771. Conservatively rated at 100w per channel, this receiver is highly regarded in Mac circles. Mingo; Apr 28, 2023; Dollars and Sense; Replies 2 Nov 22, 2022 · I am 59 years old. I have been listing to both of these units for sometimeI got back the 4100 last week from Terry (Alignment, Checkup). Dec 3, 2014. TheShlomboy; Nov 29, 2020; General Audio Nov 7, 2023 · How many Relays they do have for the 4100? 3? 4? 8? LOL Looks like Mac made this a more simple plug and play affair for such. I've had both and not knocking either. Most people say the MR78 is the best Mac Tuner. Maybe I just got accustomed to vintage gear? I also have a few Sansui amps. The 4100 was dull and lifeless, much like a SX-750. and pioneer sx880. I was actually thinking about trading it for an 1800 I found locally. Nov 8, 2006 · Hello, I'm trying to help my brother decide on buying classic receiver and I know this is the best place to ask the questions. All 3 are fully restored. And it hangs easily with the Mcintosh. Currently I run a Sansui G 8700 DB receiver. For sound quality, the Deluxe beats the Eight in my opinion. For the MC 2105, the price is a little over $2100. Excellent point on resale value. Well balanced and smooth. Dec 12, 2016 · Roon>Merason DAC 1>Airmid Yeti OTL, Violectric V550 Pro, Sansui 881, McIntosh 4100, Cayin IHA 6, Nitsch Piety Headphones: ZMF Caldera, ZMF Atrium Open, ZMF Atrium Closed, ZMF Verite Open, ZMF Verite Closed, ZMF Auteur, ZMF Auteur Classic AKG K701, AKG K340, AKG K240 Sextett EP,MP,LP, AKG K240 DF, Sennheiser HD250 Linear 1 My YouTube Channel Released in 1974 the Sansui 881 retailed for $529. The MAC 7200 has a 200 wpc amplifier, a DA1 digital module with an ESS Sabre 9018 DAC chip, an AM-FM tuner, and every analog and digital input you would want. Here is a chart comparing them from a Pioneer advertisement of the day (obviously bias toward Pioneer). And McIntosh products are good matches with high-efficency speakes like your JBL's (Many Klipsch speaker owners use nothing but McIntosh amplification as Sep 24, 2017 · Fixed it is better than any McIntosh 1700 or 1900 out there, by a wide margin. The Sansui 350 series has The 4100 was the first receiver to actually carry the McIntosh name plate. The 5900 is two steps down from the TOTL 9900, then the 7900, and I understand their are other differences other than model number. Right now, I use a Mcintosh C20 and MC2300. I wouldn't bad mouth any of them. It was built in the McIntosh Lab factory and sold through McIntosh Lab dealers but if you look at the receiver and its manual, both say MAC instead of McIntosh. What are your thoughts on these late 60's early 70's competitors. In the middle of the range was the Sansui G-7700 Pure Power DC Stereo Receiver which is featured here. Jun 15, 2011 · It would make for a good starter into the McIntosh World. He was using a 200w/ch Sansui to drive those). Would likely be a bedroom system driving small speakers. Built from 1979 until 1980 it produces 75 watts per channel into 8 ohms and total harmonic distortion of 0. 8 inches. I do not need a lot of power so even 30 wpc would be enough. 4100 amp section is 10 dB quieter than MC2100. All have been successful except the Sansui which had problems to begin with that kind of went away while other problems popped up. i have a model 1070 integrated amp. existing components. Jul 2, 2016 · I can't recall which mid-range receivers were in the comparo but I can say most Sansui's, Concept's, Kenwood's, some Marantz, and some early Pioneers put on a decent show with NS-1000M's. The Sansui 350A was a budget receiver introduced by Sansui in 1970. and i still use a C28 daily, but not with a mcintosh amplifier. You can have proper operation, or have less. Selling it and sysyems based on it made the house and car payments and kept the dealership open. It's excellent. The Sansui 881’s gold anodized front panel and metal endcaps give it a clean metallic look. McIntosh vs Sansui ideas? Sep 8, 2023 · The Sansui G-3000 receiver was introduced in 1977 and was on the market until about 1979. Jun 23, 2011 · Hi, I am actually thinking of jumping in and getting an older McIntosh receiver. In terms of receivers, the Marantz you compare a McIntosh receiver to is called a Model 18 or Model 19, which were true competitors and built to the same standards. I will be using it primarily for vinyl. the 4100 is the first Mc receiver that really goes head to head as a "serious Dec 23, 2012 · Ok folks, I am having a hard time trying to decide on a receiver to invest in. The 5900 is only a 3-gang 3 filter tuner and wouldn't be quite Sansui's best, now pit that Mac against a TU-XI or 919 or even a 717 and I think you'd Sep 16, 2015 · The Sansui 1000x is totally capacitor coupled and uses all NPN transistors and a single rail power supply. I happen to enjoy both. Jan 28, 2010 · McIntosh MC2105: THD = . I sold both 4100's got into Accuphase and also a mint Marantz 19 USA made. 00, but it was well worth it. C; Dec 2, 2014; Exclusively Sansui; 2. Dec 28, 2016 May 30, 2020 · Sansui claimed it was the best receiver on the market and they may have been right. Both are very musical, the McIntosh has a build quality advantage in some areas, but Sansui holds it's own. Easily serviced and McIntosh still supports it to this day. Dec 1, 2015 · Roon>Merason DAC 1>Airmid Yeti OTL, Violectric V550 Pro, Sansui 881, McIntosh 4100, Cayin IHA 6, Nitsch Piety Headphones: ZMF Caldera, ZMF Atrium Open, ZMF Atrium Closed, ZMF Verite Open, ZMF Verite Closed, ZMF Auteur, ZMF Auteur Classic AKG K701, AKG K340, AKG K240 Sextett EP,MP,LP, AKG K240 DF, Sennheiser HD250 Linear 1 My YouTube Channel Feb 5, 2011 · According to Gordon Gow the 4100 receiver was the mainstay of the successful McIntosh dealers. Better tuner, better build quality, better preamp and power amp. up to the point that Sansui left the U. Jan 17, 2014 · I'd like to get some vintage Mcintosh but the prices are crazy. Apr 11, 2017 · I prefer McIntosh, but don't dislike the Sansui either. I love them both. Second and third systems are being thought over, and decided on- I have a much-loved CA/BA 2000 but wonder how a McIntosh Sep 5, 2007 · I really like my Sansui gear, especially my AU-919. A completely discrete amplifier and pre-amp circuits give the receiver a great sound stage. I currently own a few vintage receivers. With my Jensen Model 5s it just has that ‘sound’. Jun 24, 2022 · Roon>Merason DAC 1>Airmid Yeti OTL, Violectric V550 Pro, Sansui 881, McIntosh 4100, Cayin IHA 6, Nitsch Piety Headphones: ZMF Caldera, ZMF Atrium Open, ZMF Atrium Closed, ZMF Verite Open, ZMF Verite Closed, ZMF Auteur, ZMF Auteur Classic AKG K701, AKG K340, AKG K240 Sextett EP,MP,LP, AKG K240 DF, Sennheiser HD250 Linear 1 My YouTube Channel bill is right about marantz- it is a good value today. (A friend back in the 70's had the Ohm F's. Average Ebay prices are about $600 vs. The tuner is already decided as I have a Sansui TU-X1 that will go into the main system with the TBD McIntosh and the misc. 50: Sansui R-50 Receiver Works Well: Sold Oct 25, 2022: $99. Doing a little research online the 4100 looks like it's an easy piece to work on. To the OP, do yourself a favor and try the Sansui 4000 - it seems to have a bit of a following over on the Sansui forum as an under appreciated receiver. It simply sounds better. The 4100 has the pre-amp/amp section from the 6200. Jun 18, 2023 · I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said that the Sansui 9090 receiver is one of the best receivers ever made because it is. Sep 17, 2014 · Concur completely with the MAC 4100, which in my view is one of the best values on the secondary market in McIntosh. McIntosh 4100. Sep 22, 2012 · I agree with Yogiboy. Prices are as follow: Mcintosh - 1000, Sansui - 700, Marantz - 1400. Mar 2, 2012 · The MAC4100 was the lifeblood of McIntosh dealers back in the late 70s and early 80s. Apr 16, 2022 · There are a couple of units at the local shop that have been recapped and are available. I've been using a Yamaha AS 1200 and Sansui AU 9500. 000. I then look at something like the Sansui Au-9500 and TU-9500 and its like $600/pr compared to $1300 for a Mcintosh MA-5100/ MR-71 pair they are both around 45 wpc. Then I picked up a Pioneer SA-9100 integrated, along with a pristine Sansui TU-517 tuner (to go with my two TU-217s, TU-717, and TU-9900). I prefer the sound of the Sansui, but that is a matter of personal taste and I sure wouldn't blame you if you like the 1250 better, they are both excellent receivers. MAC 1900 is a fine receiver as well but the 4100 is about 50% more powerful, is capable of delivering into 2 ohm loads and has Power Guard, unlike the MAC 1900. Full disclosure, a fair amount of my attraction is the aesthetics of the 1700 but have read many posts an about the legendary Mac sound as well. May 11, 2019 · Luxman R1050 vs. That way people knew not to expect it to be 100% as good as McIntosh separate components. The 4100 was the first receiver to actually carry the McIntosh name plate. Still supported by McIntosh. When it was discontinued because of supply problems with the analog tuner it put us dealers who depended on it in a world of hurt. I've never heard either of these larger AU integrated amps, but recently acquired a mint TU-9900 tuner and Dec 2, 2014 · Mcintosh always had the output transformer burden whereas sansui never did , except for the BA 5000. It's remarkably flexible and solid as a rock. In this article, we will cover a general overview of both brands, looking specifically at the sound quality, durability, price, and so on. 160 W per channel. It’s smooth and balanced and a bit tubelike and laid-back. 10 , from the midrange on up to the treble the Canor and McIntosh have very similar sonic traits. For reference, I currently have in use in my system: Sansui AU111 (recapped) Sansui AU777 (recapped) Feb 28, 2017 · I replaced my Mac 4100 receiver with a 1700, because I use the tuner a lot and wanted the tube touch. The TOTL (and only) McIntosh receiver in 78 was the 4100, versus the Marantz 2500. Mar 16, 2014 · Hello, I would appreciate feedback from owners of the AU-11000 or AU-20000 amplifiers who might be able to characterize the sound of these units as compared to other solid state amps. The 4100 is prone to a number of cut-corner issues, and selection of components used back Aug 21, 2019 · Roon>Merason DAC 1>Airmid Yeti OTL, Violectric V550 Pro, Sansui 881, McIntosh 4100, Cayin IHA 6, Nitsch Piety Headphones: ZMF Caldera, ZMF Atrium Open, ZMF Atrium Closed, ZMF Verite Open, ZMF Verite Closed, ZMF Auteur, ZMF Auteur Classic AKG K701, AKG K340, AKG K240 Sextett EP,MP,LP, AKG K240 DF, Sennheiser HD250 Linear 1 My YouTube Channel Apr 30, 2014 · I put the Eight Deluxe in a spare bedroomdriving some Burhoe White's. However, if you were on a budget then you might have had to settle for the middle of the lineup which would have been this receiver – the Sansui 7070. McIntosh MAC 4100 100-Watt Stereo Solid State Receiver 1978 - 1985 - Silver $1,950 Jul 15, 2024 Mar 22, 2024 · I recently lucked into picking up a Macintosh 2100 amp for a very good price. Living room retains for now, a trio of B&K EX-442s and PSE pre-amp. Mcintosh. 03%. Keep the one I like the best and sell the other. ” Jan 21, 2024 · When working to spec, both have THD below audible limits and both have ruler-flat response. After getting the advice of a couple of experts on the matter, I took the leap. Nov 7, 2014 · There should be no great mystery here AFAIK. 99: Sansui R-70 Receiver Works Well: Sold Nov 20, 2022: $150. Pioneer QX-949A quadraphonic receiver Pioneer SX-838 receiver Sansui 3000A receiver Realistic STA-2001 receiver and many more, but. For $200, Audio Classic sells a very nice selection of wood cabinets. You buy what Sansui 2000 Receiver Parts Needs Repair: Sold Oct 29, 2022: $129. Now I'd like to look for more Mcintosh seperates. That's very likely to happen in my case. Couldn't be happier. McIntosh receivers didn't catch up with all of those features 'til '78 (4100). ratatatwilly Member. Nov 26, 2012 · It took until '73 for Pioneer (SX-x3x)and Kenwood to come up with something comparable, and '74 or 75 for Sansui (x0x0). 00: Sansui 551 Receiver For Parts Or Repair Works: Sold Oct 15, 2022: $99. JOMARK911 Super Member. Superior in every way. Jun 18, 2023 · The Sansui 6060 Receiver hit the market in 1976 and retailed for around $420. You get what you pay for. I have a Sansui 4000 receiver, and a McIntosh MA 6100. The 4100 beat my newish Yamaha AS 1200 sound quality wise. Price for the MC 4100 after taxes is about $1900. Thread starter dbrown; Start date Dec 14, 2016; Sansui G9000 my favorite. When working properly there aren’t many receivers that sound as good as this one does within it’s price range. Thread starter Dr. I have listed them below to show you what I am comparing. if you include integrateds, it's my partially recapped Yamaha A-1 without a doubt. James_Dean; Feb May 27, 2014 · If you were a Sansui fan back in the golden era of audio you would dream of having the 9090DB which, at the time, was the flagship of Sansui’s lineup. I use the 1900 with Vandersteen 1c's and the 4100 with DCM Time Windows. it just looks cooler, but technically this lowers the ESR significantly and is frequently used in modern May 10, 2005 · I run both the 1900 and the 4100. I only have basic (good) quality Cerwin Vega and Sansui speakers. Surprisingly I would guess that a larger percentage of those who’ve heard both receivers favor the Sansui G-8000 over the SX-1250. Apr 12, 2017 MAC 4100 vs 6100 vs 1700. SANSUI never competed Mcintosh directly, since Mcintosh's were different designs and inferior in sound quality. Mar 8, 2011 · Title says it all- I'm dramatically thinning the collection and concentrating on a few setups. it bests jolida’s 1501. Thread starter Xerowarp; Start date Apr 18, 2012; Prev. e30_325is; Apr Dec 18, 2023 · The competition with the Marantz 2325 included the Pioneer SX-1250, Kenwood KR-9400 and the Sansui 9090. $200 spent at Classic Audio will solve the problem nicely. They are known to have a few reliability issues and I believe there were (5) versions so they are difficult to work on. 95. The power amp sections in these receivers were exceptional. smokinone; May 11, 2019; General Audio Discussion; Replies 10 Sansui A-60/T-60 vs Luxman L5 integrated/ T-4 Tuner. No issues whatsoever. Scpecifications: Power output: 125 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo) Frequency response: 20Hz to 20kHz; Total harmonic distortion: 0. Jan 8, 2017 · McIntosh vs Sansui. The Marantz is nice but not to that level. $900. I bought it in a shopping mall stereo store in the 70's for $150 bucks, bear in mind my 67 Chevy truck was $500 at the time. MAC 4100 Owner's Manual. Apr 18, 2012 · Sansui Vs. The Sansui 9010 is the same receiver as the 881 but the upper half of the front panel is black. I use an unmodified, all original TU-9900 with my main (Mcintosh) system in the living room because it flat sounds better than anything else in the house! Nov 26, 2023 · I’ve been attracted to the Mac 1700 for quite some time now but have no experience with McIntosh. However, the 7200 is more resolute with respect to bass, possessing a firmer grip over my speakers’ woofers that pays dividends when listening to more complex passages. Given its price point it was designed to do the basics well but with minimal features. besides an Onkyo 601 HT receiver, they're the only receivers i've ever had. Dr. The McIntosh 1700 puts out 40W per channel and is designed to meet home audio use, so I would expect it performs quite admirably and similar to the likes of Fisher 500C/800C, Sherwood S-7000, S-7700/S-8000 and Scott, HK etc. Jan 1, 2013 · I have Sansui AU717 and 719, 8080DB, and a Pioneer 737. Coming from my apt holman and Adcom, it’s a bit of a change for me, as that combination was Jun 15, 2006 · The MAC 4100 receiver will be the best from an investment perspective: It will never drop in value as it and the model it replaced, the MAC1900 are both highly desired by McIntosh enthusiasts. Of course, each brand has different devices at different price points. Sep 2, 2015 · Luxman R1050 vs. the detail and range is amazing. AU-9900 as Feb 14, 2020 · They are only 6 watts apart 39 vs 45 for the 4000 - however the 4000 sports 4400 uF supply caps vs the 2000x's single 2200 uF. Dec 12, 2011 · This is the Sansui G-8000 and while it is the little brother of the Sansui G-9000 it is still one big receiver. I enjoy my Sansui 4000 a great deal, like the QRX 7500 (which I also have). From the little I can find online, they're both fairly well regarded, but would like to hear any user opinions. Jun 4, 2020 · “They formed a division called MAC Audio Company to market the receiver. Both are still supported by McIntosh in Binghamton, NY. But more interesting is the choice of using 2 x 2200 supply caps - don't know if they did for visual reasons. That led me to the AU-717, and the McIntosh was history. CohibaJoe; Mar 22, 2013; Solid State; Value of McIntosh Mac 4100 receiver vs separates. it certainly is a rabbit hole, this McIntosh bug! I have just set up the 4100 to replace my apt Holman/ Adcom combination and will test it for a few weeks. It was offered at a retail price of just $199. I find the Sansui sound to be lifted at the top and bottom almost as setting the faders to smile on a graphic equalizer. And that is how I ended up with Bobs McIntosh receiver in my living room. It, as you know, has a bit more power. Loud but a bit Sep 15, 2018 · I've done a full recap on a Pioneer SX-535, 737, and 650, a Nak 3020a, and a Sansui 661. got a feeling the marantz will come out winner. This is the Sansui G-8000 and while it is the little brother of the Sansui G-9000 it is still one big receiver. The Mac 4100 I've owned a few Sansui receivers of this era. No preamp needed for the 4100, but the 2105 has the beautiful meters. Jan 27, 2010 · Well the relevance is that mac made tube gear and since it's Yamaha vs. Jun 13, 2016 · Roon>Merason DAC 1>Airmid Yeti OTL, Violectric V550 Pro, Sansui 881, McIntosh 4100, Cayin IHA 6, Nitsch Piety Headphones: ZMF Caldera, ZMF Atrium Open, ZMF Atrium Closed, ZMF Verite Open, ZMF Verite Closed, ZMF Auteur, ZMF Auteur Classic AKG K701, AKG K340, AKG K240 Sextett EP,MP,LP, AKG K240 DF, Sennheiser HD250 Linear 1 My YouTube Channel Sep 13, 2021 · I just picked up a Mcintosh 4100 over the weekend. You will probably prefer the 9000 Series Pioneer Integrated to the standard 50 or 80 series receivers. Feb 26, 2017 · If I had to live with one receiver the rest of my life as a main unit, the McIntosh MAC 1700 or MAC 4100 would be it over anybody else's. the jolida is a nice amp, but the marantz is something else. Jan 4, 2015 · Even looking within the sansui brand at that time, more money typically got you more power and a couple of features, not a better sounding amp. I like the Marantz, but it is not as good. Turn of the 70's type. Jan 12, 2012 · It is Mc quality but there were things about it that bugged me such as the row of push buttons that never seemed to line up and the sound was very good but not as nice for long term listeing as the 1500, 1700 and 4100. Curious as to thoughts as between the 4000 or 5000x or others to watch for. It was near the lower end of the Sansui lineup in the mid 1970’s. It specs at 40 watts, but normally bench tests 60 or so. Many comparisons are made between this receiver and the Pioneer SX-1250. #1. Apr 14, 2009 · hey how you doing,,im froggy real name is richard. 5 dB of additional headroom (both amps driven to max output) however the 2100 doesn't have PG (anti-clipping) circuitry. In my collection, my heavily modded Kenwood KT-7550, and Sony ST-J88B to name a couple sound better on a strong signal. , IMHO, Sansui had held the crown of sound. the reason i took the time to write you is because i have a sansui G-9700 and got it hook to a pair of sansui sp-x11000 speakers and i got a pair of audiosphere 18 inch sub in them two mids and four tweeters and ,,,well let me tell ya it cranks out some big noise ,,,,the best i have ever owned for power and sound if you want some pics give Jul 6, 2021 · I have a restored 4100 and would like to find a nice power amp to use behind it and then upgrade to a pre down the road. I'd have another McIntosh gladly and the MAC 4100 is my favorite McIntosh receiver ever made. McIntosh's best is separates but the MAC 1900 should not be overlooked. It's that good! The OPT's on this era Sansui's were top notch. If that is not an option, your only other McIntosh receiver choices would be the MAC 4100, 4200 & 4300 which are rated at 75/100; 75/100 & 100/100 wpc into 8/4 ohms respectively. It also has more features. The 717 or 719 have the top spot in my ear. The Sansui 8080DB falls somewhere in between, leaning to the Sansui side, naturally. It has a serial number located on the rear panel of the chassis. Oct 12, 2012 · And, the division in-between all of us was immediate and strong. Apr 29, 2022 · To my ears, my Sony STR 6050 sounds every bit as good as my Sansui 7000/4000, or my cap coupled Pioneers (770/1000/2500). While owning these I have A-B tested them with the following speakers: JBL4410A, Yamaha NS1000, Pioneer HPM-60, CV MV400 & 250, Leak Sandwich, JBL L-19. I use the MAC 1900 daily. K; Start date Feb 8, 2008; D. S. This is the McIntosh 4100 receiver. Nov 29, 2010 · McIntosh for me. . 62caddy Trust but verify Jul 22, 2013 · If you are budget minded you may have noticed that the MAC 4100 comes cheaper than the MA 6200. Superior performance when in nice order. Sansui were early adopters of the famed Hashimoto transformer. It replaced a fully recapped Mcintosh 4100 receiver. Share: Facebook Twitter Reddit Mar 29, 2022 · MAC4100 & MX117 share the same tuner preamp sections except the 4100 has 5 band EQ while MX117 has 3. Using a Tucked away in a big gaudy wooden entertainment center on a lower shelf next to a motley collection of dusty low budget consumer electronics sat a vintage McIntosh Mac 4100 integrated amp (a “receiver”). Replies 26 Views 2K. I sold it all on ebay. Dec 23, 2012 · Not all McIntosh is the "best" some early Sansui tube amps are considered to be some of the best ever made. Sansui vs McIntoshnot fair you say! I was thinking more along a Mac 4100 to 9090DB comparison: May 28, 2020 · McIntosh MAC 4100 Recap. Workmanship I would agree is as good as the Mac's. Produced in 1975 it was top of the line for Sansui and the bigger brother of the Sansui 8080. cafg ieuw mwio ajp ceab fgiijwv inhxw ean wqdx saqnrbkf